Daytona 24h B2O team

[Peeble]

Band of Others Team Enduro Schedule:
http://www.speakvisually.net/Schedule/index.htm

Fuel Calcs:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1r7ZVLfEP8l6q9YkAS4ZrmCELXjLobDrgct4fqSnUyBc/edit#gid=985136145





So iRacing confirmed a date and cars finally: https://twitter.com/iRacing/status/684446197290020865

January 23-24, with the GT3 cars and the Corvette DP.

Anyone up for fielding a team? I think the last big endurance race we did was the Sebring 12 hours and that didn't go so well. I think we can do a bit better this time

Anyway, who's up for and what car?

Edit:


Race starts at Saturday 13:00 GMT (Saturday 8 AM EST) and goes on for 24 hours. If we do 3 hour stints, we'll have 8 slots to fill.

http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3370378.page

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

The BMW is the GT3 car I'm most comfortable with, but I don't think it will be very competitive so I'd be up fro the McLaren/Ford as well. The C7 might also be fun.

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

I definitely would like to run this race with a B2O team. I vote BMW or McLaren.

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Peeble, we'll need 1-2 other drivers in order to not die.

I also that this might be the day we celebrate my wife's birthday (on the 20th) so there may be a chunk of time I'm not available. I'll try and find out more about what we're doing.

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Official start time is up.

 

[Kenadian]

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I'd certainly be up for this so count me in. I don't want to pick a car though because I'd rather have the car pick me.

Personally I favor the Corvette because I think we have a chance of doing well in it if we aim simply not to die. I'm sure over 24 hours there will be plenty of carnage in that thing so if we can keep ours in good shape we may do well.

As for the GT3 cars the only one I'm against is the Ford but I'll drive it if I have to. My next least favorite is the McLaren only because it's not practical given the varying amount of experience we have around here in that car.

Regardless of experience though I'm sure most will agree that there will come at least one time over the course of 24 hours that the car will want to kill us so is it worth strapping in knowing this? One serious off over 24 hours could spell the end of our race so is the McLaren the best choice knowing this?

For practical reasons I'd say the Ruf is our best choice (sorry Kyle) but we can test the theory.

If you guys don't mind I'd like to host at least 4 Practice Sessions giving us all a chance to drive the car we believe we'd be most effective in. The first session would be 2 hours in length allowing for everyone to get familiar with the track.

All following sessions would be 1 hour in length for you to test other cars over the course of a fuel run.

Maybe we could get Noel to rig up a spreadsheet counting incidents and lap times and see which car we all aspire to?

Of course this all could be overkill (which I'm good at) but given the amount of racing we actually do around here it's not a bad idea to tackle a project like this at some point in time IMHO.

 

[Kenadian]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Official start time is up.

Have they announced what track it will be on :lol:

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

For practical reasons I'd say the Ruf is our best choice (sorry Kyle) but we can test the theory.

Death to the Ruf! It already killed our last race!

The one issue with the C7 is that I've seen some people post on the forums that anything over 20 seconds of repairs for it will give you a blackball, even if the car feels fine. Not sure how accurate that is though.

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

I'm not doing the C7. I don't own it and I'm not buying it for the event, but if everyone else does that's fine, don't mind me then.

I would guess the BMW is best for this event simply for survivability, it being the easiest and most forgiving. I'm OK with the Macca though and will drive the RUF if that is the consensus.

This race would be raced with obvious caution, no need to risk the car in any manner, so I'll definitely approach this race with caution.

Don't 3 hour stints seem a bit long? Or is it just me in my lack of experience in endurance racing?

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Not sure, that's just an assumption on my part.

The Ford GT3 is actually very stable and quick around here.

 

[Kenadian]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Death to the Ruf! It already killed our last race!

The one issue with the C7 is that I've seen some people post on the forums that anything over 20 seconds of repairs for it will give you a blackball, even if the car feels fine. Not sure how accurate that is though.

lol the Ruf didn't kill our last race, it was a dodgy move outside of T1 that did. Dino came across the nose of another Driver and ended up in the wall. It could have happened to anybody in any car so I'd be hesitent to blame the Ruf.

I'm not doing the C7. I don't own it and I'm not buying it for the event, but if everyone else does that's fine, don't mind me then.

I would guess the BMW is best for this event simply for survivability, it being the easiest and most forgiving. I'm OK with the Macca though and will drive the RUF if that is the consensus.

This race would be raced with obvious caution, no need to risk the car in any manner, so I'll definitely approach this race with caution.

Don't 3 hour stints seem a bit long? Or is it just me in my lack of experience in endurance racing?

If you don't have the C7 then we just won't run the C7 big fella'

As for racing mindset I don't know how much endurance racing you've done but I've done a few now and I can guarantee that it's possible your mindset may change over the course of a race.

I've entered 2 events now at Brands Hatch, both expecting to drive conservatively and protect the car (initially) yet hotlapping once the green flag dropped.

My second race was so aggressive I was willing to shoehorn my car anywhere just to get past people.

If we're doing 2 and 3 hour stints each I'd expect people to get a little "punchy".

I've no idea the entry restrictions but I'd guess it's up to us how we split up the racing intervals. Assuming this is the case I can commit to 3 - 5 hours racing preferably over the course of 2 or 3 stints.

...for that matter we could probably change Drivers everytime we pit in if we wanted to.

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

I had a great first stint at Brands Hatch but no one else connected with me so I was hung out to dry.

Yes we could change every 1 hour as needed. I think the best course of action is to get 3-4 drivers and assign time slots that the driver can make based on 3 hour intervals. Then if multiple drivers are on, for example, both you and I are online during my 3 hour stint Duke, you could take one hour of my shift if you want / I need. This works the same for when your 3 hour stint is on and someone else is online while you're running it.

Basically it's assuming everyone will be around at one point or another to support and maybe fill in to give small breaks, etc though they're not necessary breaks.

 

[Kenadian]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

I think that was an issue with iRacing Kyle because we weren't the only Team that experienced issues using our own Team. Nobody else registered as that Team including myself yet it was invisible to me and everyone else it seems, still no idea why?

As for the race itself, we should aim to have 2 Drivers present at all times if possible. That way if one of us is close to shitting ourselves we can pit in rather than shit ourselves.

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

It was disappointing but it wasn't your fault, don't worry about it. If you guys had joined I probably would have crashed on Lap 2.

I agree with that though. Having 2 around always would be great. So us 3 for one of the GT3 cars, we just need one other driver and I'll do up a schedule, if you want to do it that way.

With that said, there's a chunk of time I'll be unavailable. Probably from Sat around 6pm eastern to 1 am ish to be safe. If that's an issue I understand.

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Do driver swaps increase the pit stop length?

 

[Kenadian]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Do driver swaps increase the pit stop length?

I don't think so but if they do it's marginal. For all the GT3 races I've watched I can't remember for the life of me if the car is being serviced as the Driver Swap happens? I believe the Driver Swap happens at the same time as tire change but don't quote me on it.

Hopefully Noel chimes in because my guess is he'd probably like to join which would certainly help us out in the wee hours.

 

[Fromthenavy]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

EDIT: Not Happening for me..

... Goodluck

 

[Daunt]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Do driver swaps increase the pit stop length?

Not with GT3 pit stop times. Driver swap I think is 30sec (maybe 40?) and a full stop is a bit over 42 or something close to that. It takes longer because of the long tire change (1 at a time, and you can't refuel and change tires at the same time) so the driver swap does not cost extra time.

 

[Peeble]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Is two-stopping tires possible?

 

[Noodleguitar]

Re: Daytona 24 B2O team?

Sorry for the late reply. I am going to my grandmother's birthday on the 23rd but I realize now that it is a 24 hour race, so even with that out the way there is still plenty of time left in the race.

I would be unavailable from 8:00 to 19:00 EST to be safe (race starts at 8:00 EST). But if possible I would gladly join after that.

I voted for the McLaren but any car is fine with me as long as we pick one in time so we all get to practice it. We'd also need an early base race setup probably.

The McLaren currently has an advantage on the straight and in qualifying but it might get more terrifying than the other cars towards the end of a stint. Picking the BMW would probably mean that our setup needs to have low wing for the massive straight which might make corners tricky.

3 hour stints may seem more scary than they actually are. The racing will likely not be as intensive as a common GT3 race and it's easier to settle into a rythm over such a time period.

They did say repairs are active but not how many we'll have during the whole race.

Yes, Duke, I could probably make a summary of incidents / lap times from the results of a practice session.

Driver change indeed costs 30 seconds. A regular pit stop used to be around 54 seconds but they changed the tire replacing procedure so now it will probably take around 65 seconds for a full pit stop.

I think they will employ the "fair share" rule. So if we have for example 5 drivers and the race is 820 laps then a fair share is 820 / 5 * 0.25 = 41 laps.
So each driver would have to do 41 laps which is around 1 hour and 12 minutes.