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So what was the reason you stayed?
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mondo
Hardcore
Do you want the honest answer?
Why I stay it was the friends but also the level of quality of the admins. We had such a strict set of requirements to admins, to maintain a level of respect from players that they would not abuse there status. Being an admin at wolf was once a sign of respect by players. People wore that status with pride. Other gaming sites respected us for our excellent standards of staff and fairness.
Another yet slightly odd rule these days I don't actually care for is we had clean TS. No swearing and it actually worked for what we wanted to do. It was family friendly.
One other thing that worked was two EU based servers, which gave us allot of diversity in members. I remember 30 of us being on TS on Hydra and then moving to BBW to start that up, I think for a good while Hydra was hovering near the no.1 32 player server for BF1942 which was awesome.
We let is slip though with the FH server because very few of the older admins paid much attention to it. We shouldn't have let the standards slip, we'd previously kicked admins for even the slighted infraction. To many kids with admin rights was never going to work. It was such a headache. Also being a US only operation by then allot of the EU guys dropped off, especially once Hydra vanished.
You know where WGN first died? It was when we focused to much on one mod for one game. It was never going to end well with that because it was tied to niche within a niche. We tried to get BF2 going but that didn't carry so well and we always tried other games but once BF1942 died out as a vanilla game it did start to unravel. Rob also pushed a few people to hard to 'work'. I remember Limey did that manager for JO but it then turned into a job for him and he moved on.
In 2007 it was a totally different place from 2003.
Why I stay it was the friends but also the level of quality of the admins. We had such a strict set of requirements to admins, to maintain a level of respect from players that they would not abuse there status. Being an admin at wolf was once a sign of respect by players. People wore that status with pride. Other gaming sites respected us for our excellent standards of staff and fairness.
Another yet slightly odd rule these days I don't actually care for is we had clean TS. No swearing and it actually worked for what we wanted to do. It was family friendly.
One other thing that worked was two EU based servers, which gave us allot of diversity in members. I remember 30 of us being on TS on Hydra and then moving to BBW to start that up, I think for a good while Hydra was hovering near the no.1 32 player server for BF1942 which was awesome.
We let is slip though with the FH server because very few of the older admins paid much attention to it. We shouldn't have let the standards slip, we'd previously kicked admins for even the slighted infraction. To many kids with admin rights was never going to work. It was such a headache. Also being a US only operation by then allot of the EU guys dropped off, especially once Hydra vanished.
You know where WGN first died? It was when we focused to much on one mod for one game. It was never going to end well with that because it was tied to niche within a niche. We tried to get BF2 going but that didn't carry so well and we always tried other games but once BF1942 died out as a vanilla game it did start to unravel. Rob also pushed a few people to hard to 'work'. I remember Limey did that manager for JO but it then turned into a job for him and he moved on.
In 2007 it was a totally different place from 2003.
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PepsiChic
Core
maybe in some peoples eyes I was a "kid with admin rights" but overall I enjoyed running the servers, I loved having the challenge of keeping them entertaining and populated, and Im quite proud that I managed to do both sucessfully on multiple game type servers. it was also fun learning how the different servers work, the tools needed and spending time tweaking the rules the maps and everything else to make the server player popular.
I of course stuck around for the friends.I love my gaming family.
I liked the rules for the most part, I liked that having a [WOLF] tag ment something, it had to be earned, you had to show a level of commitment, respect and overall be a team player.
do wish there had been an area in TS where the rules could have been more lax. at the end of the day, you spend your working hours being an upstanding citizen, when you finish work, the kids are in bed and you wanna chill out playing a game and should be allowed to swear and make a few inappropriate jokes without someone watching over your shoulder all the time.
Teamwork was the other big thing, we would organise days to all play one certain game and it worked out wonderfully, we'd co-operate, squad up, play and work as an efficent team (remember the EVILS'?). I dont play games by myself I love being part of a team and that was the best part of WGN.
I of course stuck around for the friends.I love my gaming family.
I liked the rules for the most part, I liked that having a [WOLF] tag ment something, it had to be earned, you had to show a level of commitment, respect and overall be a team player.
do wish there had been an area in TS where the rules could have been more lax. at the end of the day, you spend your working hours being an upstanding citizen, when you finish work, the kids are in bed and you wanna chill out playing a game and should be allowed to swear and make a few inappropriate jokes without someone watching over your shoulder all the time.
Teamwork was the other big thing, we would organise days to all play one certain game and it worked out wonderfully, we'd co-operate, squad up, play and work as an efficent team (remember the EVILS'?). I dont play games by myself I love being part of a team and that was the best part of WGN.
I stayed for the people and the release of gaming with good friends.
Wolf was also the first Community I ever registered at and continued to return to. I actually felt as if I'd made friends, not forum acquaintances which you get pretty much everywhere.
I'm very proud to say that some of you have been friends for close a decade and I cherish that the most.
I only hope that we can continue these friendships here and develop new ones in the days/weeks/months/years to come.
Wolf was also the first Community I ever registered at and continued to return to. I actually felt as if I'd made friends, not forum acquaintances which you get pretty much everywhere.
I'm very proud to say that some of you have been friends for close a decade and I cherish that the most.
I only hope that we can continue these friendships here and develop new ones in the days/weeks/months/years to come.
I became a [WOLF]er because of the gaming experience. Nowhere was playing Battlefield better than on a [WOLF] server, Hydra's helped too, of course.
As I never entered "Management Level" I had no idea what was going on behind the scenes, but when Wolf started to become a business enterprise I decided to leave.
The 332 Vikings became my new "home" after that.
As I never entered "Management Level" I had no idea what was going on behind the scenes, but when Wolf started to become a business enterprise I decided to leave.
The 332 Vikings became my new "home" after that.
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calizza
Casual
Mondo said a lot of my feelings.
I liked that it was a smaller community (as far as TS goes). I wasn't a big fan of trying to have something huge because I prefer quality over quantity. We had enough that we could play private tournaments or have plenty in an open sever but it wasn't so many that I felt lost in the crowd.
Also as an admin I felt I had a duty and others were counting on me.
I have made friends that I have kept ever since and still play with. Some almost daily and others on occasion.
So that is what kept me around during that time.
I liked that it was a smaller community (as far as TS goes). I wasn't a big fan of trying to have something huge because I prefer quality over quantity. We had enough that we could play private tournaments or have plenty in an open sever but it wasn't so many that I felt lost in the crowd.
Also as an admin I felt I had a duty and others were counting on me.
I have made friends that I have kept ever since and still play with. Some almost daily and others on occasion.
So that is what kept me around during that time.
Jezebel
Core
I liked WOLF for a few reasons.
The first was that it was friendly. Yes you had your main port-of-call within the sub-sections of the forum, depending on what game you played, but the DMZ was alive with banter and chit-chat that sucked you in and pretty quickly introduced you to a wealth of people outside your gaming experience. Since WOLF, and because WWG was for the most part after VC died more of way to just stay in touch with people, I've been part of several gaming communities (Vindicators, Threshold and more recently The Syndicate) and non have had that friendliness.
Vindicators was run by admins that would jump in game-specific threads and bitch people out and make decisions about how our in-game guild and alliance should run having never played a minute of the game. Needless to say that irritated me and I finally called one of the main admins an ***hole and left. Threshold was run by members of the armed forces and, understandably, they ran it as such. Being barked at and made to do 50 press-ups in my downtime wasn't what I wanted either so after running with those guys in Warhammer and then in RIFT I told one of the main guys there to go **** himself ... There seems to be a pattern here. I really don't have an issue with authority. Just tools.
Finally there is The Syndicate - a widely respected guild. It is said to be the oldest guild in the world at over 15 years old. However, it's a business and the guy that runs it, Dragons, is guild leader in every game even if his toon is only level 10. Only games he sanctions are supported by the guild/forums and only those in his trusted inner-circle are ever promoted to in game officers even if they don't play. There was no community just a rigid, unapproachable hierarchy. On the forum each game’s section was locked down from any members that didn't play it and you couldn't shit without asking what shape it had to be, what time you could do it and what colour it should be. Seriously. Whilst playing SWTOR recently, there were but 5 members online. Oh, go find a new guild I hear you say? Nope. You join another guild in a game supported by The Syndicate = big fat boot out the door. You can go and play with other players, but being in a guild with lots of people is a lot of the fun in gaming for me – playing alongside rather than with just doesn’t cut it. Other guilds/players in a game that has Syndicate presence that uses the name “Syndicate” or any derivatives of that name were forced to change it using some copy-right rules that are supported by the games manufacturer. It seems that unless Dragons has a company sign some piece of paper that no one else is allowed his name or the guild name, The Syndicate doesn’t play it. The game choices don’t seem to come from the players but more dictated to by Dragons. I seem to be complaining a lot about this guild in particular but I really do have a lot of respect for The Syndicate in terms of what they do on the business end of it all. Game guides, pre-beta testing etc. Lots of amazing things going on that really do impact all of us as gamers in a positive way. How does it rank as a gaming "community"? Fail. Dragons said you get out of the guild what you put in. There was nothing to put in to it to begin with. Nobody talks.
The second reason I liked Wolf was that, unless it was sensitive information especially in MMOs like Voyage Century, pretty much all the games were open to read. This meant you could read up on things and see if a game was something you might like to try out.
The third reason, and the most important, was always the people. I have met some amazing people whilst gaming. I have met Dutch, Fins, Germans, Danes, Canadians, Americans, Portuguese, Czech, Chinese, the list could just go on and on, as well as one crazy Indian. Some of these people I class as family, some literally are my family now! I never felt that same level of community, of “family”, as I did at WOLF. Ever since we left I have been floating around lost at sea trying to find a new community with the same feeling of “home” and I have never found it.
I know we have not been here at fragturd, oops, I mean tard, very long but ever since Duke approached Engnr with the idea to resurrect what was great and minus the crap I have, for the first time, felt like I was on the right track to finding what I thought was lost.
The first was that it was friendly. Yes you had your main port-of-call within the sub-sections of the forum, depending on what game you played, but the DMZ was alive with banter and chit-chat that sucked you in and pretty quickly introduced you to a wealth of people outside your gaming experience. Since WOLF, and because WWG was for the most part after VC died more of way to just stay in touch with people, I've been part of several gaming communities (Vindicators, Threshold and more recently The Syndicate) and non have had that friendliness.
Vindicators was run by admins that would jump in game-specific threads and bitch people out and make decisions about how our in-game guild and alliance should run having never played a minute of the game. Needless to say that irritated me and I finally called one of the main admins an ***hole and left. Threshold was run by members of the armed forces and, understandably, they ran it as such. Being barked at and made to do 50 press-ups in my downtime wasn't what I wanted either so after running with those guys in Warhammer and then in RIFT I told one of the main guys there to go **** himself ... There seems to be a pattern here. I really don't have an issue with authority. Just tools.
Finally there is The Syndicate - a widely respected guild. It is said to be the oldest guild in the world at over 15 years old. However, it's a business and the guy that runs it, Dragons, is guild leader in every game even if his toon is only level 10. Only games he sanctions are supported by the guild/forums and only those in his trusted inner-circle are ever promoted to in game officers even if they don't play. There was no community just a rigid, unapproachable hierarchy. On the forum each game’s section was locked down from any members that didn't play it and you couldn't shit without asking what shape it had to be, what time you could do it and what colour it should be. Seriously. Whilst playing SWTOR recently, there were but 5 members online. Oh, go find a new guild I hear you say? Nope. You join another guild in a game supported by The Syndicate = big fat boot out the door. You can go and play with other players, but being in a guild with lots of people is a lot of the fun in gaming for me – playing alongside rather than with just doesn’t cut it. Other guilds/players in a game that has Syndicate presence that uses the name “Syndicate” or any derivatives of that name were forced to change it using some copy-right rules that are supported by the games manufacturer. It seems that unless Dragons has a company sign some piece of paper that no one else is allowed his name or the guild name, The Syndicate doesn’t play it. The game choices don’t seem to come from the players but more dictated to by Dragons. I seem to be complaining a lot about this guild in particular but I really do have a lot of respect for The Syndicate in terms of what they do on the business end of it all. Game guides, pre-beta testing etc. Lots of amazing things going on that really do impact all of us as gamers in a positive way. How does it rank as a gaming "community"? Fail. Dragons said you get out of the guild what you put in. There was nothing to put in to it to begin with. Nobody talks.
The second reason I liked Wolf was that, unless it was sensitive information especially in MMOs like Voyage Century, pretty much all the games were open to read. This meant you could read up on things and see if a game was something you might like to try out.
The third reason, and the most important, was always the people. I have met some amazing people whilst gaming. I have met Dutch, Fins, Germans, Danes, Canadians, Americans, Portuguese, Czech, Chinese, the list could just go on and on, as well as one crazy Indian. Some of these people I class as family, some literally are my family now! I never felt that same level of community, of “family”, as I did at WOLF. Ever since we left I have been floating around lost at sea trying to find a new community with the same feeling of “home” and I have never found it.
I know we have not been here at fragturd, oops, I mean tard, very long but ever since Duke approached Engnr with the idea to resurrect what was great and minus the crap I have, for the first time, felt like I was on the right track to finding what I thought was lost.
calizza
Casual
Hope to see you around!
PepsiChic
Core
I'll give my last reason....and its probably why i hurt so much leaving.
I was in an abusive relationship and my best friend was hit and killed by a drunk speeding driver (who then won the lottery..) It was the only thing that kept me busy enough to not loose my mind and commit suicide. I never played any kind of shooting game and had never joined a forum before.
It kept my head in a more stable place, and gave me people to talk to, and eventually laugh with and love.
I was in an abusive relationship and my best friend was hit and killed by a drunk speeding driver (who then won the lottery..) It was the only thing that kept me busy enough to not loose my mind and commit suicide. I never played any kind of shooting game and had never joined a forum before.
It kept my head in a more stable place, and gave me people to talk to, and eventually laugh with and love.
Thanks for sharing that Pepsi, I can't imagine how tough that must have been.
For me, I was struggling with alcohol and drug abuse (pot and any b00ze I could get my hands on). I was heart broken over my visitation with my daughter being cut in half by my idiotic ex wife.
I could have fought with her but it always ended up hurting my child because her mom would make my daughters life miserable. So I drank and smoked pot excessively to try and bury the pain (which of course it never did).
I found Wolf around that time and got to hang with many of you fantastic people and it helped mark the turning point of my control over substance abuse.
For me, I was struggling with alcohol and drug abuse (pot and any b00ze I could get my hands on). I was heart broken over my visitation with my daughter being cut in half by my idiotic ex wife.
I could have fought with her but it always ended up hurting my child because her mom would make my daughters life miserable. So I drank and smoked pot excessively to try and bury the pain (which of course it never did).
I found Wolf around that time and got to hang with many of you fantastic people and it helped mark the turning point of my control over substance abuse.
Particle Noun
Casual
Oh you kids. Wolf died back when I left in a huff because TM280 and NixFix unfairly sniped me in a game of Renegade and I just couldn't take it anymore.
Jesus. C&C Renegade. Anyway, glad to see some folks I know. I have a feeling I fell away from Wolf long before I would have had the chance to meet some of you.
Jesus. C&C Renegade. Anyway, glad to see some folks I know. I have a feeling I fell away from Wolf long before I would have had the chance to meet some of you.
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