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Windows 10
- Thread starter Daunt
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I was talking to someone about Windows 10 and they weren't too happy with it so far. I can't remember who this was though, maybe Kevin Hill?
It could have been lack of Driver support iirc which isn't surprising but he said some games weren't giving him half the frames Windows 8.1 does.
It could have been lack of Driver support iirc which isn't surprising but he said some games weren't giving him half the frames Windows 8.1 does.
Daunt
MLG Pro
The constant updates thing is absolutely ridiculous. How long until you think someone creates a program that blocks them? Honestly I can see that happened very quickly.
Only way to get around this is to buy the business or enterprise edition. Business edition of Windows 10 allows you to delay updates for up to 8 months, and Enterprise edition allows you to basically ignore all updates if you want.
Microsoft has completely acknowledged that with this, they've made home users literally their beta testers for businesses using the better editions. Ridiculous.
At the very least, I've read you can downgrade back to the Windows version you had. Not sure if that is always or within a year of upgrading.
Only way to get around this is to buy the business or enterprise edition. Business edition of Windows 10 allows you to delay updates for up to 8 months, and Enterprise edition allows you to basically ignore all updates if you want.
Microsoft has completely acknowledged that with this, they've made home users literally their beta testers for businesses using the better editions. Ridiculous.
At the very least, I've read you can downgrade back to the Windows version you had. Not sure if that is always or within a year of upgrading.
Daunt
MLG Pro
An update regarding Window's forced updates:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/07/27/microsoft-backtracks-on-windows-10-forced-updates/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
http://www.forbes.com/sites/antonyleather/2015/07/27/microsoft-backtracks-on-windows-10-forced-updates/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix
mondo
Hardcore
I installed Windows 10 on 3 machines yesterday without any issues bar the known Nvidia driver conflict which is easily sorted. Everything worked. One was 7 and missing a few years worth of updates, another was 8.1 standard and the other 8.1 pro.
10 is just 8.1 with some tweaks so there isn't too much to worry about. The UI changes are completely optional as well. Even my old start8 worked as I did a keep all apps and files install on my gaming machine. The only thing I had to do was reset my default browser. Other than that I've had more hassle updating to a new service pack.
10 is just 8.1 with some tweaks so there isn't too much to worry about. The UI changes are completely optional as well. Even my old start8 worked as I did a keep all apps and files install on my gaming machine. The only thing I had to do was reset my default browser. Other than that I've had more hassle updating to a new service pack.
mondo
Hardcore
The Windows update will try to installer a driver over a newer one. Aparently it's Nvidias fault. Doesn't take much to fix though.
When you update you get the option like you did with 8 over 7 of doing a fresh install with nothing kept. It dumps everyone in windows.old folder. I usually do this but I recently reinstalled anyway I did the "keep all the stuff" option and it worked really well. Ran the system files cleaner afterwards and the old windows version is dead, since I don't need to revert.
Upgraded 4 PCs with Windows 10 now and had no issues at all. Works perfectly. I was slightly worried when doing it to my new Dell XPS laptop but it turned out without a problem. Even my CH HOTAS works and the drivers are not signed for 10. Two of the machines I upgraded were 7>8>8.1>10 upgrades in series so if something could go wrong it would have been with those.
The only confusion I had over the whole thing was the Nvidia problem and my mobo driver for the Intel onboard GFX chip which I used for a third screen. The driver didn't install, so disabled the device, removed the driver, enabled and then windows update sorted out the new version.
When you update you get the option like you did with 8 over 7 of doing a fresh install with nothing kept. It dumps everyone in windows.old folder. I usually do this but I recently reinstalled anyway I did the "keep all the stuff" option and it worked really well. Ran the system files cleaner afterwards and the old windows version is dead, since I don't need to revert.
Upgraded 4 PCs with Windows 10 now and had no issues at all. Works perfectly. I was slightly worried when doing it to my new Dell XPS laptop but it turned out without a problem. Even my CH HOTAS works and the drivers are not signed for 10. Two of the machines I upgraded were 7>8>8.1>10 upgrades in series so if something could go wrong it would have been with those.
The only confusion I had over the whole thing was the Nvidia problem and my mobo driver for the Intel onboard GFX chip which I used for a third screen. The driver didn't install, so disabled the device, removed the driver, enabled and then windows update sorted out the new version.
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Daunt
MLG Pro
Until games are programmed using dx12, I don't think there's going to be a major difference. I've asked in multiple places, including on the iRacing forums, to see if there would be ANY advantages at all in using dx12 and a staff member replied, saying unless the game is programmed using that version's API, there is no benefit.
EDIT: I speak only the DirectX version change. Obviously not to any OS performance enhancements.
Kyle Breen-Bondie said:
Here: http://members.iracing.com/jforum/posts/list/3323084.page#9091187Dave Gosselin said:
EDIT: I speak only the DirectX version change. Obviously not to any OS performance enhancements.
mondo
Hardcore
I personally don't see any reason right now not to upgrade. We're not talking about the XP to Vista transition here, but a very stable OS to an upgraded version of that with some fairly nice UI features for once.
If a certain game or peripheral is known not to work then that is the only reason I'd hold back.
If a certain game or peripheral is known not to work then that is the only reason I'd hold back.
Peeble
Core
Here are some gaming benchmark comparisons between 8/10.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/windows-8-1-vs-10-graphics-performance-review,1.html
I'm on 10, haven't had any issues and I'm really enjoying the better multi-monitor support. I did a full wipe though.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/windows-8-1-vs-10-graphics-performance-review,1.html
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I'm on 10, haven't had any issues and I'm really enjoying the better multi-monitor support. I did a full wipe though.
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